High temperature adhesives
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:53 am
I've been having some issues with trying to keep my foamed glass displacer secure on the SS shaft.
At first I tried high temperature silicone, but that took too long to cure, so I tried supper glue, but that didn't want to work over the silicone.
I cleaned off the silicone as best I could and put some supper glue back on, but it was a problem getting the glue down in the displacer then pushing it onto the shaft, the glue set too fast and the displacer got stuck before completely on.
So I tried glueing with the supper glue after the displacer was already on, but that didn't hold.
Then I tried the supper glue and baking soda.
That worked great for a while, and allowed me to take a "fist run" video, but then afterwards, I was running the engine without the LED.
Without any load, the engine speed increased quite a lot and I wanted to see just how fast it could go and turned up the torch. The engine was flying, then bam... It stopped.
The displacer had come loose. The supper glue had become too hot and softened up.
So, I tried using the high temp silicone again. But just let it set overnight
When I finally tried to run the engine, the silicone smoked and swelled, breaking apart the displacer from the inside
HELP!!!
I'm starting to pull my hair out in frustration.
I've been thinking that the best method would be to have a barbed shaft and fuse the foam glass displacer right onto the shaft in the microwave as it is being formed.
I'm afraid high temperature epoxy would likely have issues at such really extreme temperatures.
At least the displacer did not suffer any damage with the supper glue failure. It didn't swell and destroy the somewhat fragile foam glass, it just softened, but it was not down at the really hot end either.
Maybe some stove cement ? Water glass ?
Anyway, the displacer is ruined. I'm not entirely happy that it was not strong enough to take the pressure.
I think, it is probably possible to make a foam glass that is extremely heat resistant and very strong, but most foamed glass is not formulated for use as a high temperature component in an engine.
This stuff was intended for rabbits to chew on.
At first I tried high temperature silicone, but that took too long to cure, so I tried supper glue, but that didn't want to work over the silicone.
I cleaned off the silicone as best I could and put some supper glue back on, but it was a problem getting the glue down in the displacer then pushing it onto the shaft, the glue set too fast and the displacer got stuck before completely on.
So I tried glueing with the supper glue after the displacer was already on, but that didn't hold.
Then I tried the supper glue and baking soda.
That worked great for a while, and allowed me to take a "fist run" video, but then afterwards, I was running the engine without the LED.
Without any load, the engine speed increased quite a lot and I wanted to see just how fast it could go and turned up the torch. The engine was flying, then bam... It stopped.
The displacer had come loose. The supper glue had become too hot and softened up.
So, I tried using the high temp silicone again. But just let it set overnight
When I finally tried to run the engine, the silicone smoked and swelled, breaking apart the displacer from the inside
HELP!!!
I'm starting to pull my hair out in frustration.
I've been thinking that the best method would be to have a barbed shaft and fuse the foam glass displacer right onto the shaft in the microwave as it is being formed.
I'm afraid high temperature epoxy would likely have issues at such really extreme temperatures.
At least the displacer did not suffer any damage with the supper glue failure. It didn't swell and destroy the somewhat fragile foam glass, it just softened, but it was not down at the really hot end either.
Maybe some stove cement ? Water glass ?
Anyway, the displacer is ruined. I'm not entirely happy that it was not strong enough to take the pressure.
I think, it is probably possible to make a foam glass that is extremely heat resistant and very strong, but most foamed glass is not formulated for use as a high temperature component in an engine.
This stuff was intended for rabbits to chew on.