It's been a few days again, since last hearing from "fool".
Just to reiterate, I do very much appreciate all the time and effort spent, or being spent on this analysis.
I've been waiting to get to the "juicy" part, which I'll highlight in the following repeat quote.
Note, what I'm highlighting is what I consider fallacious for reasons already delineated. Fundamentally it is not a matter of mathematical "error" or false calculations. Rather, it is the fact that our very definition and understanding about the nature of heat has changed over the course of a couple centuries, BUT THE MATH HAS NOT CAUGHT UP with our new, presumably better and more accurate and true understanding about the nature of heat.
We have a new definition of heat as a form of energy, but the math, some of it at least, the Carnot efficiency limit formula in particular, is still based on the old definition.
First question: "How do you define HEAT?"
Second question.
Does all the math conform with or reflect that definition?
Fools detailed analysis has helped me to narrow things down and zero in on the problem area
Qh = Qc + W
Or rearranged:
W = Qh - Qc
Second Law:
Efficiency ratio:
n = W/Qh
Or combining first and second
n = (Qh-Qc)/Qh = 1- Qc/Qh
Qh and Qc have a linear relationship to Temperature. Meaning add 100 Joules get 100 K temperature increase. Add 200 Joules get 200 degrees increase.
So they are of the following form:
Qh = Th x Cv + K
Qc = Tc x Cv + K
Y intercept, constant: K = zero because, at absolute zero Kelvin, there will be no heat. Qh and Qc will be zero at zero Kelvin Temperature.
So those two simplify to:
Qh= CvTh
Qc=CvTc
Putting those into the previous equation for n, efficiency:
n = 1 - Qc/Qh
Or
n = 1 - (CvTc)/(CvTh)
The Cv's cancel, becoming one, which leaves:
n = 1- Tc/Th
K = zero because, at absolute zero Kelvin, there will be no heat
That depends on how heat is defined.
If temperature is viewed as a measure of "heat", well, we have different temperature scales. The Kelvin scale did not exist in Carnot's day so how could an equation that originated with Carnot use a temperature scale that did not yet exist?
But there is a more fundamental problem. The definition of heat itself.
Qh and Qc have a linear relationship to Temperature
While that may in a sense be true, Qh and Qc represent "heat" as energy transfered into or out of the engine. Each Joule, roughly speaking represents or corresponds to one degree increase or decrease in temperature depending on the volume and heat capacity and other complicating factors, and we are talking about gas not water but It takes 4.184 joules, to raise the temperature of one gram of water by 1 degree Kelvin. What that is for a gas, air, helium, etc. depends on the gas, but I think it is fine to use this simplification. Let's say it takes 1 Joule to raise the temperature of one mole of our working fluid 1 degree Kelvin. Whatever. I'm sure that's not accurate but this is a simplification.
That is Qh and Qc
We will say 1 Joule of heat transfered in or out of the engine raises or lowers the temperature of the working fluid 1 degree Kelvin.
What about Th and TC ?
Let's take Tc first.
Just because: "Qh and Qc have a linear relationship to Temperature" can we really just make a substitution: Qc = Tc ?
Recalling our definition of heat:
energy that is transferred from one body to another as the result of a difference in temperature.
Does that definition describe Tc ?
Is TEMPERATURE a
transfer of energy from one body to another ?
Does an ambient
temperature of 300 K represent 300 Joules (in our simplification)
transfered ?
Can we really just swap out Tc and Qc as if these represent equivalent values or even comparable concepts ?
A transfer of 1 Joule of heat out of the engine or "rejected" from the engine as "waste hear' at 300° K is not equivalent to 300 Joules rejected, is it ?
It seems like when we add 1 Joule (Qh) at say 600°K we then have to either convert that 600 Joules into "work' or else '"reject" whatever portion of the 600 Joules is not converted to work to the "cold reservoir".
So if we add one Joule at a temperature of 600°K and our engine can convert 200 Joules of that 600 Joules into work then the engine (our Carnot engine that is) will need to "reject" 400 Joules.
If the engine only converts the 1 Joule supplied to it, then it will have to "reject" the other 599 of the 600 Joules.
I have an idea!!!!
Suppose we take a very inefficient engine. We supply it with 1 Joule at 600°K, then when it "rejects" 599 Joules of heat, we can use all that "waste heat" to run a much much much more powerful engine!!!