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Fool wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:50 pm .

Tom, do you really believe that these two tower schemes are in some way similar to the drinking bird?

Yes.

In an ambient environment, cooling a portion creates a temperature/thermal energy differential, which results in ambient heat becoming available for utilization.

The bird uses evaporative cooling.

The towers use other means of cooling.

Flooid Power captures, concentrates, and converts ambient heat in the air into electricity—

https://www.ventureradar.com/organisati ... 2cb05b2bc2

“The key to our system is collecting energy in the air and converting it into electricity,
...capturing, concentrating and converting ambient heat into electricity."

https://www.gazettenet.com/Fooid-Power- ... n-43332991

They are forms of ambient heat engines, using an artificially generated "cold" to render ambient heat available for conversion into useable energy, in that respect, they are the same as the "dippy bird".

The Flooid people seem to be more cognizant of this, whereas the KPP people either are not aware of this aspect of their device or consider it a "trade secret", though an obvious factor of their system, just as in the Flooid system, due to the use of an air compressor that dissipates heat from the air so that it can cool and absorb ambient heat on expansion, but now in a situation where the ambient heat absorbed is in a position to effect the generation of power.
The heat lost at the compressor is reabsorbed in the water tower contributing to the boyancy of the air for driving the generator.

Similarly, the heat lost in the "dippy bird"'s head can then be reabsorbed from the ambient at the base, where this heat input is in a situation that results in mechanical motion (or "work").

Tom Booth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:17 pm
The heat lost at the compressor is reabsorbed in the water tower contributing to the boyancy of the air for driving the generator.

Seeing you like pipe dreams, have you checked out OTEC ??? (Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion)

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At least OTEC. uses two temperatures.

Tom Booth wrote:The bird uses evaporative cooling.

The towers use other means of cooling.

Yes. The bird uses ambient heat and low humidity, requires shady side of the planet. It has two temperature sinks.

The two buoyancy scams use ambient heat and 'magic undisclosed cooling'. Hardly identical.

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Fool wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:43 pm .

At least OTEC. uses two temperatures.

Tom Booth wrote:The bird uses evaporative cooling.

The towers use other means of cooling.

Yes. The bird uses ambient heat and low humidity, requires shady side of the planet. It has two temperature sinks.

The two buoyancy scams use ambient heat and 'magic undisclosed cooling'. Hardly identical.

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You only think it's "magic" because you're an ignorant asshole with no common sense who's stuck on an obsolete 1820's model of heat.

Nobody said anything about "identical". Straw man.

matt brown wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:26 pm

Tom Booth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:17 pm
The heat lost at the compressor is reabsorbed in the water tower contributing to the boyancy of the air for driving the generator.

Seeing you like pipe dreams, have you checked out OTEC ??? (Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion)

I've been aware of OTEC for about as long as I've been interested in "alternative energy" (wind, solar, geothermal, OTEC, Stirling engines etc.) generally.

What of it?

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It's isn't even similar. The drinking bird works. The two scams don't. They can't. The are scams.

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OTEC uses piles and pumps and turbines. Duh.

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https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4341

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The OTEC system uses 'pipes' and pumps and turbines.

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I was able to locate the 100 KW demonstration "Kinetic Power Plant" via Google Earth:
Video screen capture from my phone using Google Earth two days ago:

https://youtube.com/shorts/44UF_qCPrs4? ... knuyGeyiU6

One of the two power plants featured in this video:

https://youtu.be/3IdNow8vZdg

From this Google Earth image, it appears as though the power plant was in operation at the time the Google mobile happened by.
I say that because the chain appears to be taught (pulled straight) on the left hand side but slack (curved) on the right.

Presumably this was not a pre-planned or scheduled visit.

This needs some explaining I think:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history

It is not uncommon for a small company to file as "dormant" in the UK if not making any money and not transacting any business, but,... If that is the case...

It can also serve as a means of "sitting on" a business name.

The name currently(?) in use seems to be Ki-Tech Global (rather than "international").

The LinkedIn profile for Ronny Korsberg mentions Ki-Tech Global, Ki-Tech Group, as well as Ki-Tech International.

This is an interesting article:

https://www.fcnp.com/2015/06/30/the-pea ... ution/amp/

It seems everyone who has investigated this thing up close and personal has come away 100% satisfied it works as advertised.

Well, almost anyway.

This is rather humorous.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_syoflPL_xM

The guy standing right next to the machine, obviously running while he exclaims "it doesn't work!!"

LOL...

He thinks there must be a hidden energy source inside the metal box

But nothing in there LOL... Just wires.

But, I still have my doubts