Fool wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:05 pm
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What does "need" have to do with anything. We don't need your banter.
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I think you are right, in the sense that VincentG does not "need" me here spamming his thread arguing with you. He started this thread. On the other hand there should be an abundance of freedom of expression.
Here on this thread, however, our "freedom" to argue interferes with VincentG's freedom or right to have a coherent on-topic discussion.
You, of course, should be free also to express your belief in "classical" physics, but trolling my threads, let's call it "beyond classical physics" if excessive and disrespectful, spamming, going off topic, basically posting na na na na nah, I'm here and I'm not going to let you have your conversation because I don't agree, nah nah nah. nah-----------
Filing someone's topic with complete garbage and interfering with the right of others to pursue a topic, then some moderation and control, unfortunately becomes necessary if only to keep things somewhat organized and useful.
This discussion might be moved to a "forum moderation and politics" category heading. Then VincentG can carry on here in peace.
People simply don't "need" Pet Adoption advertisements in the Automotive section of the classified ads.
Likewise, people researching apparent second law violations don't need you continually and disrespectfully interfering with their investigations.
You, unfortunately do not recognize or respect the rights of others to "agree to disagree". You insist that everyone must agree with you or be subject to your continual harassment or what you think is "correction" or "education" or "help".
People do not need your "help". In most cases, those looking into meta-physics topics already know all about classical or conventional physics. They don't need you continually derailing and interfering, it's a waste of time, off-topic, disrespectful, ultimately destructive and detrimental to progress and advancement.
Right now, I'm being disrespectful answering you and arguing with you about this off-topic subject on a thread that has nothing to do with forum organization or forum politics just to illustrate a point.
I don't like excessive, overbearing, heavy handed forum moderation, but sometimes moderation becomes necessary just to maintain some sense of organization so people can find information easily, much like a library of books benefits from some categorization.
If I'm in a library trying to read a book about the Proell effect I don't "need" someone bashing me over the head with a high school physics textbook. Likewise for a group or a club of any kind trying to have any kind of discussion on any topic. They have a right to discuss the topic in peace without harassment and continual disruption and interference.
You, "fool" unfortunately, do not seem to recognize such basic principles of social interaction, therefore your disruptive behavior needs moderation to protect others rights.
In extreme cases someone will be excluded from the "library" premises entirely when they fail to keep their disrespectful unruly behavior in check after several warnings.
People having a casual conversation about their model engine hobby don't "need" some overbearing "science" taskmaster trying to enforce double blind scientific peer review protocols on their informal kitchen table experiments, they don't need enforcement of strict technical scientific language when talking about heat and pressure.
You, fool, apparently want to be the moderator of a classical physics forums and have some ambition to mold this forum into your own idea of what a classical physics science forum with you as the moderator should be.
You're in the wrong section of the library, or in the wrong library altogether and nobody appointed you the moderator here to be dictating what others are allowed to talk about.
You have intruded into, derailed, interfered with, spammed and disrupted numerous topics on this forum and continue to do so, apparently, in your own words, with the goal of completely sinking the ship looking forward with glee to the day this forum goes off line.
In such a case there will be no admission for you in the reconstructed forum. In extreme cases antisocial people need to be excluded from society to protect the rights and freedoms of others.