This is quite interesting and seems to relate to what I have been attempting to relate.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-heat-trans ... ic-process
I was lead into researching what exactly constitutes a "polytropic process" due to reading a paper on Stirling engine mathematical (computer) modeling, where the article stated that a mathematical model based on "polytropic processes" came closest as far as being able to accurately predict actual physical engine performance.
So what is "negative heat transfer" in a polytropic process?
Apparently, it is exactly what I have been observing and attempting to describe or relate, but using the term "adiabatic".
Adiabatic expansion (and cooling) alone, however, does not include cooling due to WORK output, or the conversion of heat into work, which was the actual basis of my argument: Adiabatic expansion/cooling PLUS the conversion of heat into work could have the effect of COOLING the working fluid BELOW ambient/atmospheric temperature, resulting in a pressure drop below atmospheric pressure, so that the piston is pushed back during the compression stroke without the aid of any energy stored in a flywheel.
So NEGATIVE heat transfer in a polytropic process is, apparently where, although heat is added to the system, the net result is cooling, due to work output.
In other words, heat is added, the gas expands and does work and the gas cools. But how can there be MORE work output than the heat added?
According to the response in the Quora question:
the work that is obtained is not only due to the heat supplied by us but also from the internal energy of the system that's why we are getting more work than heat supplied.
In other words, the "working fluid" contained, or sealed inside the engine is already at something like 300° Kelvin before we even begin to add any additional heat. So there is actually all of that "internal energy" available.
Remember, a 100% efficient engine would result in a cold side temperature at absolute zero. A "perfect" heat engine would be able to utilize ALL the heat.
Wait a minute, hold on, that's impossible... Right?
Well yes, it would be, likely impossible to use ALL the heat, including all the "internal" latent heat and end up at absolute zero, but, apparently utilizing SOME of that stored internal energy is NOT impossible
Think of all that "latent" or pre-existing "internal" heat (kinetic energy) as energy ALREADY stored in a flywheel.
We give the flywheel a little extra push, then slow it down by extracting a little MORE energy than we put into it. That is certainly possible, RIGHT? The flywheel, after all, already had an enormous amount of stored energy before we started, but, of course, if we kept this up, the stored energy would eventually be used up and the flywheel would slow down, slower and slower, until it stopped.
But what if there were some outside mechanism maintaining the flywheel speed?
If we take a little more energy out than we put in, then the difference would or could be made up by this "outside mechanism".
In a Stirling engine, IMO, or based on my observations and analysis, that "outside mechanism" is the ambient/atmospheric heat and pressure. (or kinetic energy in the ambient air).
When a little "extra" work is extracted from the working fluid "flywheel", it is restored by the ambient surroundings which define the baseline energy state of the system.
It is something like dropping a buoyant object into water. It doesn't just hit the surface of the water and stop, it goes deeper than the surface, then bob's back up, and oscillates up and down for a while until all the energy is dissipated, but the water level defines a kind of "baseline" that will always be returned to.
In a similar way, when "extra" energy is extracted, and the heat/pressure level in the engine dips below outside atmospheric temperature/pressure (kinetic energy level) It is immediately restored to correct the imbalance, but that results in an overcorrection, which sets up an oscillation.
The remarkable thing about extracting energy (heat/kinetic motion) from a gas that makes the process a little different from gravity or buoyancy is that in an expanding gas, taking out WORK is equivalent to taking out HEAT and results in a drop in temperature, so... The more work we can extract the lower the resulting temperature and the more heat/energy can then be recovered from the surrounding ambient to make up the difference.
In effect, after heat is added to expand the gas to push the piston to do work, and that heat is entirely converted into work in one stroke, the engine is then put in a state where it is acting like a "flame licker" or vacuum engine powered by atmospheric heat/pressure kinetic-solar energy.
In other words a Stirling heat engine is 1/2 powered by added heat that we supply and 1/2 powered by solar energy. So in a sense, as far as the small amount of heat we.need to add to set the engine in motion, that heat is being utilized at 200%
That is, the heat we add is recovered as work, which results in COOLING, but then the heat supplied by the atmosphere to restore balance is also recovered as work.
So the heat we add, is utilized in such a way as to produce cooling, and the resulting cold makes it possible to momentarily draw upon some of the ambient energy store.
But wait a minute, isn't that supposed to be impossible?
Personally I'm not all that concerned about what was considered possible or impossible 200 years ago when it was first asserted without any real evidence that a heat engine cannot utilize the heat of the ambient surroundings. I've just been trying to understand and discover how these engines actually operate and it seems abundantly clear to me that the piston is returned by atmospheric pressure, not the added heat.
However, this is not "perpetual motion". In order to temporarily utilize that surrounding ambient energy, SOME energy must be added each cycle, or every 1/2 cycle to produce the cooling that makes that momentary ambient heat extraction possible.
Anyway, this so-called "negative heat transfer" during a polytropic process, where the WORK output is greater than the heat input, due to drawing on "internal energy", is apparently a thing.
This is the same, or very simar to how gases are liquified in an expansion engine or expansion turbine.
The gas is first compressed and the heat of compression removed. (That is, the compressed gas is allowed to cool). The gas is then released adiabatically through an expansion engine or turbine. It should be noted that an "expansion" engine or turbine is fundamentally no different than a normal compressed air driven reciprocating engine or turbine. They are powered by the compressed gas expanding through them, except that these engines or turbines are kept cold and insulated so that the expansion is adiabatic. That is, the gas expands, doing work to drive the turbine, but cannot take in any heat, so the turbine or engine is being driven by the "internal" or latent heat in the compressed gas, so that as a result of this work output, (heat loss, as in a gas heat and work are equivalent) the gas looses it's internal energy and cools rapidly to the point where it condenses into a liquid.
Everything on this planet has been pre-heated by the sun to some 300°kelvin (+ or - a few degrees) so there is an enormous amount of latent "internal" energy in the air around and about, long before we add a relatively small amount to our hot air engine, and there is a long way to go, that is, there is a lot of internal/latent heat in any quantity of air or gas, that would need to be utilized before we could ever use "all" of the heat, down to absolute zero.